Sin of Pride [Import]
Track Listings
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1. Got To Have You Back
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2. Valentine's Treatment
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3. Luxury
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4. Love Before Romance
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5. Untouchable
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6. Bye Bye Baby Blue
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7. Conscious
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8. Chain Of Love
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9. Soul Seven
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10. Love Parade (Single Version)
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11. Save Me
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12. Sin Of Pride
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13. Love Parade (12" Version) (Bonus Track)
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14. Like That (Bonus Track)
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15. You're Welcome (Live 12" Version (Bonus Track)
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16. Crisis Of Mine (Bonus Track)
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17. Family Entertainment (Bonus Track)
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18. Turning Blue (Bonus Track)
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19. Window Shopping For New Clothes (Bonus Track)
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20. Bittersweet (Bonus Track)
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See all 22 tracks on this disc
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Editorial Reviews
Product Description
Midline reissue of the fourth and final album by the original line-up, released in 1983. Now featuring a total of 10 bonus tracks and including the singles Got To Have You Back, The Love Parade and Chain Of Love. By this time, the band had abandoned their Ramones-style buzzsaw guitar approach for a mature psychedelic soulful pop sound. This album has often been called one of the most overlooked albums of it's time. Castle.
Sin of Pride,Undertones,Sanctuary,Rock,Rock/Pop
Sin of Pride [Import]
Average customer rating:
- Bitter songs about girls not chocolate
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The Sin of Pride
The Undertones
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- Hypnotised
ASIN: B0007TKG8K
Release Date: 2005-02-15 |
Tracks:
- Got Have You Back
- Valentine's Treatment
- Luxury
- Love Before Romance
- Untouchable
- Bye Bye Baby Blue
- Conscious
- Chain of Love
- Soul Seven
- Love Parade [7" Version]
- Save Me
- Sin of Pride
- Love Parade [12" Version][*]
- Like That [*]
- You're Welcome [Live][*]
- Crisis of Mine [*][Version]
- Family Entertainment [*][Version]
- Turning Blue [*]
- Window Shopping for New Clothes [*]
- Bittersweet [*]
- You Stand So Close [*]
- I Can Only Dream [*]
Customer Reviews:
Bitter songs about girls not chocolate.......2006-05-27
The fourth and last Undertones album showed how much the band had progressed since their more Ramones-meets-Rollers debut. The pop-punk of Hypnotised on a representative track like "More Songs About Chocolate and Girls" and the experimental-pop of Positive Touch can be heard on Sin of Pride, but usually only in spurts. The bulk of this ambitious record documents the band's struggle to integrate Motown, soul, and R&B into their pop prowess. The results are mixed at best. When I heard the album on its release back in '83, I could not believe, if it wasn't for Feargal Sharkey's inimitable warble, that this was the same band.
The guitar trills are still heard, and the rhythm section's still spry. But Dee O'Neill's keyboards, as heard more prominently with the help of the clearer digital CD, fill in the gaps previously filled by more guitars and volume. Mike Hedges, replacing the Tones' previous stalwart Roger Becherian as producer, seems to want to leave less space in the mix; female background singers, all sorts of skronky and whirling effects, and layered backing vocals jostle for attention.
When released, this album stiffed. I was disappointed greatly by it. In retrospect, you can hear the soul cuts preparing the way for Feargal's brief solo career rather than the O'Neill brothers' return to guitar assault with That Petrol Emotion. Still, some of the songs kept burrowing into my mind for more than two decades on. Half of the original twelve cuts are catchy, even if only a couple of them have what for me made the 'Tones memorable: their way with a swaggering hook.
"Bye Bye Baby Blue" is the best, combining the new and the old sounds, and its lyric "the stains on my bed like the blemishes you made are all that remind me of you" illustrates how the band had progressed from "more songs about chocolate" to some less sweet, more bitter ones about girls. Feargal spits out the words with venom but tunefulness: no small feat. The lilt also invigorates the guitar twists spiralling in "Valentine's Treatment," with keys and guitar blending naggingly and winningly. I have to say even on many tracks I don't favor that the band manages to inject some sonic substance and texture, but the listlessness of many of the tracks sinks the momentum that the better songs deserved to have sustained.
The title track is a good example of one that half works, half does not. It did make for a poignant close to side 2 of the l.p., as I heard the band fade away and break up, so to speak, in the last grooves that recalled their happier earlier times. Their voices grow less audible as the record--and the band--comes to its last recorded end (on the original 12 tracks.) The largely downbeat lyrics are sometimes inscrutable, other times, as in this song, intelligent. Cliches are usually avoided by the still quite young songwriters, who in this band were three out of the five bandmembers in various solo or paired combos. A few Motown covers appear, none of them making you forget the originals. But, awful tracks like the listless "Love Before Romance," turgid "Soul Seven" and the unlistenable "Save Me" reveal that Derry's lads could not match Detroit's elders.
The remaining songs are often undistinguished and/or derivative. Hearing "Chains of Love" reminds me of Culture Club--I append this to note that CC stole the riff for the harmonica section of "Karma Chameleon" and not the other way around, credit to Seán Ó Neill and mates. Madness seems to inspire "Conscious." "Untouchable" more clearly shows the band's signature bounce, but's hobbled by a slick horn section. These types of songs may have been the band's (or producer's?) attempt to jump on the new-wave/New Romantic/dance club bandwagon that had begun to dominate British bands from around 1981 on for the first half of the decade. Marimbas, cello, female backing, synths: parts of the album sound very much 1983 as directed by a "hit" producer. Bonus tracks include the passable "Love Parade," one of their better attempts at soul-pop, but the rest are best for completists only, and many fans will have already heard these as B-sides, e.p. tracks, or on the singles compilations that preceded Rykodisc's reissues. A Sanctuary release in 2003 adds even more b-sides from the group's last year or so, and Ó Neill's retrospective liner notes.
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- You said "Awful" ?
- 3 stars by comparison with earlier LPs, weaker but ambitious
- Under-rated
- The Derry boys go Detroit
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The Sin of Pride
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ASIN: B0000009P0
Release Date: 1994-06-14 |
Tracks:
- Got to Have You Back
- Valentine's Treatment
- Luxury
- Love Before Romance
- Untouchable
- Bye Bye Baby Blue
- Conscious
- Chain of Love
- Soul Seven
- Love Parade
- Save Me
- Sin of Pride
Customer Reviews:
You said "Awful" ? .......2006-12-16
"But, awful tracks like the listless "Love Before Romance"..."
To read this is awful, yes. Such a marvellous song !What a pity. Change your ears dear !
This LP should be possessed by anybody loving wonderfull pop music.
3 stars by comparison with earlier LPs, weaker but ambitious.......2006-10-31
This is the band's most varied album. Some of it works, some does not. The soul influence takes over from the neo-psych swirl of Positive Touch which in turn succeeded the punk-pop of the first two LPs, so be forewarned that the dominant thread of connection for the 4 LPs is more Feargal Sharkey's voice than the instrumentation, as the lads from Derry grow up a bit too fast. See the website by Mickey Bradley for much more in the line of recollections.
The fourth and last Undertones album showed how much the band had progressed since their more Ramones-meets-Rollers debut. The pop-punk of Hypnotised on a representative track like "More Songs About Chocolate and Girls" and the experimental-pop of Positive Touch can be heard on Sin of Pride, but usually only in spurts. The bulk of this ambitious record documents the band's struggle to integrate Motown, soul, and R&B into their pop prowess. The results are mixed at best. When I heard the album on its release back in '83, I could not believe, if it wasn't for Feargal Sharkey's inimitable warble, that this was the same band that shouted for Mars Bars.
The guitar trills are still heard, and the rhythm section's still spry. But Dee O'Neill's keyboards, as heard more prominently with the help of the clearer digital CD, fill in the gaps previously filled by more guitars and volume. Mike Hedges, replacing the Tones' previous stalwart Roger Becherian as producer, seems to want to leave less space in the mix; female background singers, all sorts of skronky and whirling effects, and layered backing vocals jostle for attention.
When released, this album stiffed. I was disappointed greatly by it. In retrospect, you can hear the soul cuts preparing the way for Feargal's brief solo career rather than the O'Neill brothers' return to guitar assault with That Petrol Emotion. Still, some of the songs kept burrowing into my mind for more than two decades on. Half of the original twelve cuts are catchy, even if only a couple of them have what for me made the 'Tones memorable: their way with a swaggering hook.
"Bye Bye Baby Blue" is the best, combining the new and the old sounds, and its lyric "the stains on my bed like the blemishes you made are all that remind me of you" illustrates how the band had progressed from "more songs about chocolate" to some less sweet, more bitter ones about girls. Feargal spits out the words with venom but tunefulness: no small feat. The lilt also invigorates the guitar twists spiralling in "Valentine's Treatment," with keys and guitar blending naggingly and winningly. I have to say even on many tracks I don't favor that the band manages to inject some sonic substance and texture, but the listlessness of many of the tracks sinks the momentum that the better songs deserved to have sustained.
The title track is a good example of one that half works, half does not. It did make for a poignant close to side 2 of the l.p., as I heard the band fade away and break up, so to speak, in the last grooves that recalled their happier earlier times. Their voices grow less audible as the record--and the band--comes to its last recorded end (on the original 12 tracks.) The largely downbeat lyrics are sometimes inscrutable, other times, as in this song, intelligent. Cliches are usually avoided by the still quite young songwriters, who in this band were three out of the five bandmembers in various solo or paired combos. A few Motown covers appear, none of them making you forget the originals. But, awful tracks like the listless "Love Before Romance," turgid "Soul Seven" and the unlistenable "Save Me" reveal that Derry's lads could not match Detroit's elders.
The remaining songs are often undistinguished and/or derivative. Hearing "Chains of Love" reminds me of Culture Club--I append this to note that CC stole the riff for the harmonica section of "Karma Chameleon" and not the other way around, credit to Seán Ó Neill and mates. Madness seems to inspire "Conscious." "Untouchable" more clearly shows the band's signature bounce, but's hobbled by a slick horn section. These types of songs may have been the band's (or producer's?) attempt to jump on the new-wave/New Romantic/dance club bandwagon that had begun to dominate British bands from around 1981 on for the first half of the decade. Marimbas, cello, female backing, synths: parts of the album sound very much 1983 as directed by a "hit" producer. Bonus tracks include the passable "Love Parade," one of their better attempts at soul-pop, but the rest are best for completists only, and many fans will have already heard these as B-sides, e.p. tracks, or on the singles compilations that preceded Rykodisc's reissues. A Sanctuary release in 2003 adds even more b-sides from the group's last year or so, and Ó Neill's retrospective liner notes.
Under-rated.......2003-05-23
If you like their other three records, particularly Positive Touch, you should have this. I bought it for .98 + shipping...wotta deal. Worth owning, and at that price it's free. Most people seem to like the pop/produced Motown-influcence hope-it's-a-hit stuff, but I prefer songs like "Love Before Romance". It almost reminds me of Big Star's 3rd. Beautiful and twisted, this is a weird record. The Ryco reissue also has some great extra tracks. Get it.
The Derry boys go Detroit.......1999-03-07
On this album the boys pay their respects to Motown, adding their own wistful Irish soul to the proceedings...it's a shame this album went underappreciated, with fans fixing in their minds the teenage tunes of their first and second albums. The band do a fine job melding their power pop style with the Motown sound. Some favorites are "Valentine's Treatment", "Conscious", "Got to have you back", "Untouchable"...I could go on. Well-crafted tunesmiths, energetic and ebullient musicians...wonderful stuff.
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The Sin of Pride
The Undertones
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ASIN: B00004RCDO
Release Date: 2007-02-27 |
Tracks:
- Got Have You Back
- Valentine's Treatment
- Luxury
- Love Before Romance
- Untouchable
- Bye Bye Baby Blue
- Conscious
- Chain of Love
- Soul Seven
- Love Parade [7" Version]
- Save Me
- Sin of Pride
- Love Parade [12" Version][*]
- Like That [*]
- You're Welcome [Live][*]
- Crisis of Mine [*][Version]
- Family Entertainment [*][Version]
- Turning Blue [*]
- Window Shopping for New Clothes [*]
- Bittersweet [*]
- You Stand So Close [*]
- I Can Only Dream [*]
Album Details
This Reissue of the Band's Fourth and Final Album features 10 Bonus Tracks Including B-sides and Live Recordings from their Later Singles and EP'S.
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Manufacturer: Sanctuary UK
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ASIN: B0009XBKNY
Release Date: 2006-10-31 |
Tracks:
- Got Have You Back
- Valentine's Treatment
- Luxury
- Love Before Romance
- Untouchable
- Bye Bye Baby Blue
- Conscious
- Chain of Love
- Soul Seven
- Love Parade [7" Version]
- Save Me
- Sin of Pride
- Love Parade [12" Version][*]
- Like That [*]
- You're Welcome [Live][*]
- Crisis of Mine [*][Version]
- Family Entertainment [*][Version]
- Turning Blue [*]
- Window Shopping for New Clothes [*]
- Bittersweet [*]
- You Stand So Close [*]
- I Can Only Dream [*]
Album Description
2006 reissue of the fourth and final album by the original line-up, released in 1983. Now featuring a total of 10 bonus tracks and including the singles Got To Have You Back, The Love Parade and Chain Of Love. By this time, the band had abandoned their Ramones-style buzzsaw guitar approach for a mature psychedelic soulful pop sound. This album has often been called one of the most overlooked albums of it's time. Castle.
Average customer rating:
- Changed their tune and missed the charts
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The Sin of Pride
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ASIN: B000024D5I
Release Date: 1994-10-27 |
Tracks:
- Got to Have You Back
- Valentine's Treatment
- Luxury
- Love Before Romance
- Untouchable
- Bye Bye Baby Blue
- Conscious
- Chain of Love
- Soul Seven
- Love Parade
- Save Me
- Sin of Pride
Customer Reviews:
Changed their tune and missed the charts.......2000-07-30
The fourth and last album from the Derry, Ireland band was released in 1983 to a very disinterested public after the pre-release singles saw how they'd abandoned their shuffling, postpunk, eager teen energy for blue-eyed soul. They'd hit the UK top 20 a few times before this with such classics as "My Perfect Cousin," but "The Love Parade" missed the top 40 and the cover of the Isleys' "Got to Have You Back" failed completely. Feargal Sharkey's voice is very strong, and the whole album's quite good, but it remains an unfortunate example of how to alienate your audience. Ryko's out of print domestic reissue included six bonus tracks; these are available on a pricy import of this fine final effort.
Average customer rating:
- 13 bonus trax. Who could ask for more. It's as slick as they got. Nice too.
- Slick Pop Direction and it Works!!!!
- A third-rate Ulster Commitments.
- FILE UNDER "NORTHERN IRISH SOUL"
- Underrated
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The Sin of Pride
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Manufacturer: Sbme Castle Us
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ASIN: B0000C0FCJ
Release Date: 2003-09-09 |
Tracks:
- GOT TO HAVE YOU BACK
- VALENTINE'S TREATMENT
- LUXURY
- LOVE BEFORE ROMANCE
- UNTOUCHABLE
- BYE BYE BABY BLUE
- CONSCIOUS
- CHAIN OF LOVE
- SOUL SEVEN
- LOVE PARADE (7' version)
- SAVE ME
- THE SIN OF PRIDE
- THE LOVE PARADE (12' version)
- LIKE THAT
- YOU'RE WELCOME (live)
- CRISIS OF MINE
- FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT
- TURNING BLUE
- WINDOW SHOPPING FOR NEW CLOTHES
- BITTERSWEET
- YOU STAND SO CLOSE
- I CAN ONLY DREAM
Customer Reviews:
13 bonus trax. Who could ask for more. It's as slick as they got. Nice too........2006-03-02
Well, if yer expecting the power pop of the first two albums, s/t and Hypnotized, yer in for a big, big disappointment. This album is even more polished and designed, pretty clearly, to get on the UK radio as some sorta romantic pop stars or something.
Turns out, they're great song writers in there somewhere. So even when they took this path, it still had lovely pop songs, almost totally minus the power element.
If you want it sweeter and more gentle you've come to the right place. At least they lessened the pain a bit by added a whopping 13 extra trax. So if you happen to get into this new and final direction of the band (of the early 80's period) then you get even more songs or versions of songs.
Nice stuff really. Just, it's not for everyday listening unless yer a real pansy. Uh, did I say that outloud. I like some silly stuff that's too pop sometimes (for some reason I like the PET SHOP BOYS discography and the first PAUL MCCARTNEY solo album and a few WINGS songs even, really though, that's as poofy as I get).
If yer a punk get this album and don't tell anyone.
If you're a nice girl who likes velvety sweet pop songs from nice boys and a vocalist with a patently silly voice who's oh so serious, get this album immediately. chrisbct@hotmail.com
Slick Pop Direction and it Works!!!!.......2004-12-23
If you don't like UK Northern Soul, ie Dexy's and Style Council you may not like this cd. The clown that gave this cd 1 star suffers from HUA syndrome.....I suggest you check out their dvd for additional info on why they went in this musical direction....I bought SoP in '83 I've always loved it....The 'new' direction was hinted at in Positive Touch w/ It's Going to Happen and Julie Ocean.....a more 60's psychedelic sound.....Here they go for a R&B and Northern Soul (That's UK Northern)approach. Much more commercial; the goal reach a wider geographical audience, therefore more money. You can't blame them w/ the musical changes happening around them Duran, Spandau, ABC, etc....Many new wave power pop bands from that time changed their direction as well.....Paul Weller, 999, The Damned, Still Little Fingers....some had better success than others. The Undertones managed to put together an amazing set of tracks standouts: Love Parade, Conscious, Valentine's Treatment, Save Me, Bye Bye Baby Blue the bonus trax round out the 12' singles and rare trax.....Who could blame them for wanting to make a bit of money and leave dreary old Derry after years of hard work and critical acclaim.....I stand by this a their most sophiticated and adult work.....not for the macho complex kiddie punkers....
A third-rate Ulster Commitments........2004-07-13
SIN OF PRIDE, the fourth album the Undertones released with Feargal Sharkey, makes me glad there wasn't a fifth. This is British white-boy soul, and it goes straight for the gag reflex with hired horns, trebly harmonica, and female backing (blacking?) singers. The Undertones' trip to the new-wave hair stylist and their jump onto the 80s pop-soul bandwagon backfire, rendering this album hopelessly dated and ending the Undertones with a whimper.
If you close your eyes and pretend it's not the band who cut "Teenage Kicks," "True Confessions," and "Girls that Don't Talk"... well, it's better than Culture Club.
FILE UNDER "NORTHERN IRISH SOUL".......2004-06-22
Ah, the spring of 1983 - I was living in London, and the Undertones unleashed their FINAL album then and there. It got RAVE reviews in the British music weeklies! And I'm sure NOTHING in the USA. This is where The Undertones ventured into soul music and more psychedelia, a great combo!! Lots of keyboards on this one, but soulfully done - NOT techno!! Standout tracks: SOUL SEVEN, GOT TO HAVE YOU BACK, BYE BYE BABY BLUE, CHAIN OF LOVE, LOVE PARADE, but there's not a bad tune on the album. OH, this album brings back great memories, and never fails to impress me!!
Underrated.......2003-10-24
The Undertones weren't the first band to blend punk, soul, gospel, and pop, but they did a better job of it than just about anybody else. The guitar melodies and energy of their early work remain prominent on this record, but the arrangements are fuller, tastefully incorporating organ, piano, horns, and occasionally female backup vocalists. Amazingly, the end result is sophisticated yet never slick. Every seeming embellishment proves to be essential to the power of each song. And Feargal Sharkey's quavering vocals carry as much conviction as Smokey Robinson's or Marvin Gaye's.
Unlike a lot of reissues, the bonus tracks for this one are a must. "Bittersweet" is a lost classic that really deserved to be a hit single. And the psychedelic "I Can Only Dream" is an absolute masterpiece.
I have always felt that Positive Touch is the Undertones' best record. But The Sin of Pride deserved far more credit than either fans or EMI gave it when it was first released. Twenty years later, it sounds better than ever. Fans of The Jam's The Gift, The Beautiful South's Choke, or The Prisoners' In From The Cold will treasure this album.
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The Sin Of Pride [Reissue]
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ASIN: B000LXD0LW |
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