Primitive Cool

primitive cool

Track Listings

1. Throwaway

2. Let's Work

3. Radio Control

4. Say You Will

5. Primitive Cool

6. Kow Tow

7. Shoot Off Your Mouth

8. Peace for the Wicked

9. Party Doll

10. War Baby

Primitive Cool,Mick Jagger,Atlantic / Wea,Adult Contemporary,Pop,Pop/Rock,Popular Music,Rock,Rock & Roll

Primitive Cool

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A very underrated record!!!!!!
Not the greatest output!
Primitive, no, but cool sophomore effort from Jagger
Dreck
Not very primitive, not very cool

Primitive Cool
Mick Jagger
Manufacturer: Atlantic / Wea
ProductGroup: Music
Binding: Audio CD

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ASIN: B000002IXI
Release Date: 1993-11-16

Tracks:

Throwaway
Let's Work
Radio Control
Say You Will
Primitive Cool
Kow Tow
Shoot Off Your Mouth
Peace For The Wicked
Party Doll
War Baby

Customer Reviews:

A very underrated record!!!!!!.......2006-11-27

Mick's second solo record is very good. Some songs are better than others but it's overall a little better than She's the Boss. Say you will should've been a hit. Check out Mary Chapin Carpenter's version of Party Doll.

Not the greatest output!.......2005-11-09

I also bought this album (CD) when it first came out in the late 1980s, starving for something from the Stones. I actually liked She`s the Boss and hoped that this one would be equal to it, but perhaps a little more up-to-date. Boy, was I wrong. I think that, apart from one or two tracks, most of it`s garbage. Listen to "War Baby" and I keep expecting to hear bombs go off and the sounds of sirens.
I guess the thing is with Mick is that he was in a class of his own and did not have to produce this kind of stuff. I am sure he really does not like it, and he certainly did not need the cash. Pass on this one and buy Waundering Spirit instead.

Primitive, no, but cool sophomore effort from Jagger.......2005-08-04

Following the Stones' Dirty Work, bickering amongst the Stones prevented them from having the anticipated quinquennial tour. Both Mick Jagger and Keith Richards decided on solo albums, creating speculations whether the end of the Stones was nigh. Such wasn't the case however.

But Mick Jagger's second solo album, Primitive Cool, went more on a harder-edged guitar rock sound than the pop polishings of She's The Boss. All songs were produced by Mick himself, with assistance from Keith Diamond and Dave Stewart, and he brought back Jeff Beck on lead guitar.

That's not to say that some of the pop polish was gone. The first single, "Let's Work," his simplistic solution on killing poverty, went to #39. The song seems to be a mean-spirited hit against welfare recipients, but maybe against those who take advantage of the system-"can generosity bring you humility?"

The second single, the #67 "Throwaway," owes a bit to the Stones, but is more typical of Mick's new hard-driving sound, but the theme of a "been there done that" greasy Casanova who finally wants some true love has been done before. "Radio Control" is even better, featuring some hard guitar riffs. Living Colour's Vernon Reid has guitar chores, so I wonder if it's him here.

The title track is an amusing commentary on how the young ask those who lived in the 50's and 60's if they lived the history of those times, be it fashion or political upheavals, as they learned it in school or saw on TV. I shudder to think of the time when it comes my turn, when some whippersnappers ask me of the 80's, "It all seems so primitive, how did you survive? It all seemed so different then. How did you stay alive?" His easy answer is to tell them what they want to hear, "Oh yeah," but sardonically telling the whippersnappers "Well I think you've got it figured out/go check it out for yourself/cause I've had it playing teacher for today."

"Kow Tow" is a song on taking a stand against a lover gone bad, refusing to be bound to the past or being blackmailed, with some crunching guitar on the chorus. The jumping "Shoot Off Your Mouth" comes closest to the Stones-like nastiness, and is a harder-edged Little Richard/Elvis-type song slamming another ex who not only puts him down but becomes like the proverbial rat on a sinking ship when things go bad. And when he gets stronger, "who are you to shoot off your mouth?" he demands. The most energetic song here and a fave.

The bittersweet ballad "Party Doll" sees Mick visiting country since "Faraway Eyes." More an acoustic piece than country, it shows the disillusionment that sets in once the giddy party days are over, especially when the other half "wants to live in clover." Paddy Maloney gives an Irish flavour with the Uileann pipes. Mary Chapin Carpenter later covered this on her greatest hits album.

"I was born in a war, that's why they call me a war baby" sings Mick in the sobering anti-war "War Babies. The poverty experienced by the Brits, the storming of Omaha Beach on D-Day is juxtaposed with the Cold War arms race, with a faint background sound effects of air raid sirens, bombs, and machine gun clatter. "Why can't we hope to find a cure" be it to war, poverty, and security, is an oft-cried question, with a solution that can be either an impossible dream or a darker one.

A few filler songs fail to dampen a stronger solo album from Mick, who despite revisiting familiar themes, is has a reflective side on the title track and "Party Doll." It would be after another Stones album before Mick would go for round three with Wandering Spirit.

Dreck.......2005-04-14

The Nadir: This waste of plastic effectively shut the door on Mick's dreams of being a Sting or Michael Jackson solo star. He should be slapped for the "Let's Work" video.

I am a major Stones fan and a fan of Wandering Spirit (although the rat should have saved those tunes for Voodoo Lounge). I can honestly say that I would rather listen to a Bill Wyman record rather than this.

Not very primitive, not very cool.......2003-12-03

Primitive Cool is Jagger's second solo album. If She's the Boss (1985)was a decent, though not great record, Primitive Cool turned out to be a major disappointment.
The album as a whole was not very good and did not show any sign of improvement over She's the Boss.
As to the songs. Let's Work - the first single released from this album - is really crap. And the other songs are not much better. Most songs are boring and the lyrics are often pathetic. On say you will Mick sings: "cast all you fears aside, say you will, say will be mine". The words in Throwaway are not much better (used to be a casanova, used to dance bossanova,..). This is ridiculous. Mick Jagger should remember he can do better than that!
The only songs to be saved is Party Doll, which, when played acoustic, is a nice little thing.

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Primitive Cats
Cy Touff , and Richie Kamuca Quintet & Octet
Manufacturer: Fresh Sounds Records
ProductGroup: Music
Binding: Audio CD

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Primitive Cool
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Manufacturer: Sony
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More like this, please
A real treat from a true innovator

Primitive Modern/Quadrama
Gil Melle Quartet
Manufacturer: Ojc
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Binding: Audio CD

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Release Date: 1991-07-01

Tracks:

Dominica
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Ballet Time
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Walter Ego
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It Don't Mean A Thing (If It Ain't Got That Swing)

Customer Reviews:

More like this, please.......2004-09-15

"...The possiblities of expanding the duties of modern drumming also becomes apparent. Primitive fire reminiscient of African native drumming is essential. Complete dynamic control is a must. Modern polyrhythmic conception beyond the dactylic timeworn approach is a necessity. To the drummer belongs the world of Edgar Varese and his realm of raw sounds. The use of friction devices, chains, anvils and sirens is not a crazy, far-fetched idea for a jazzman. It is rapidly nearing reality."
(from the liner notes)

I write this based on my somewhat worn vinyl copy of "Primitive Modern". I found it in a thrift store for 50 cents and have thanked the powers that be every day that I had such luck. As the quote above indicates, Gil Melle and his outfit were serious about rhythm and doing interesting things with rhythm. Listen, for instance, to "Ironworks." There's a triangle, showcased solo, alongside all the normal jazz trappings and belting out its own rhythmic figure, which is proceeded and followed by various other rhythmic figures. Such an advanced sense of rhythm is hard to find these days and it has insipired me to push my music rhythmically beyond the tired and worn-out dull throbbing of modern music.

All that revolution, of course, would be hard to swallow if this wasn't great jazz. While "Ironworks" starts out startling, it settles into a groove for the choruses that anyone can dig. "Ballet Time" is straight-ahead (well, as straight-ahead as a Gil Melle composition can be) mid-tempo, starting off with some excellent solo guitar chords that immediately give me that "oh yeah" feeling I get from good jazz. Cool.

I can't speak for the Quadrama tracks included on the CD beyond the audio clips listed here. However, from the sound of things it's definitely Melle and seriously groovy. "Walter Ego" sounds particularly intriguing, with all sorts of twists and turns before things settle a bit on the chorus.

On the basis of the "Primitive Modern" tracks alone I highly recommend this album. If it affects you the way it affected me, it'll fundamentally alter your concept of rhythm.

A real treat from a true innovator.......2001-03-28

I was refreshingly suprised the first time I heard this album. I had been bored with most of my music collection when I stumbled upon this "nugget of pure gold". What's even more exciting is when you find out more about the man himself. Gil Melle is a true original, still going strong. His art will surely last the test of time.

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